I’m Not So Good With The Advice, Can I Interest You In A Sarcastic Comment?
Posted on February 10th, 2010 in Collar And Cuff, Emotional Angst, LARP, Mating And Relating, Polyamory, Three's Company
In response to this post, Tonya enquired as to our contract and how Jack feels about another man ordering me around and telling me what to do. I wanted to address this in it’s own post because a comment reply could potentially be five miles long, heh Ya’ll know how I get so wordy sometimes.
I want to assure you all now that Jack had just as much input as Aiden and I, when it came to the contract. He read the drafts and requested additions/subtractions as he saw fit. Aiden and I both felt (and still feel) that although the contract is technically between him and I, that it affects Jack just as much, if not more so, and that his feelings on the matter would be of the utmost importance.
Currently the contract is up for renewal, however with Aiden just beginning a new job and settling in here with us, we’ve postponed renegotiating it for the time being. When we do, Jack will again be asked to contribute his thoughts and feelings on how the trial period went, and what changes he would like to see, if any. It’s obviously very important that we are all on the same page when it comes to where the boundaries lie, and what is and is not ok.
Sometimes Jack disagrees with the way in which Aiden and I conduct our relationship. I won’t speak on his behalf, but for example there was one day when I had been feeling off, or at least more moody and emotional than usual, and I had a punishment coming to me for some infractions in the days prior. Jack found it difficult to understand why Aiden would follow through with punishing me when he knew I was having a really shitty day, as he is more inclined to coddle and snuggle me when I’m not feeling like myself.
We talked about it, and I did my best to reassure him that not only was the punishment well earned on my part, but that it was important for Aiden to follow though on these things because otherwise it would be difficult for me to take him seriously as my Master. Consistency is important, especially in the beginning, and despite feeling really terrible, I knew that and accepted it, although perhaps not as gracefully as I could have.
Jack gets it on a rational level, it’s just not his way. Regardless, he did not interfere, and I believe that he does trust Aiden to look out for my best interests. He knows that while I can be submissive, I am not passive, and that if I am really having an issue, I won’t hesitate to make it known.
Aiden isn’t really that inclined to order me around a lot either. There are certain expectations when it comes to my behavior, which I am aware of. Rather than ordering me to do something, he prefers to ASK that I do it, which leaves the onus on me to obey. This may seem contradictory to the entire Master/slave relationship, but Aiden prefers that I not become the type to mindlessly follow orders, and would rather that I behave because I’ve made the choice to do so. It’s kind of difficult for me to put into words, but by leaving me at least the illusion of a choice, I confirm my submission to him every time I do as I am asked.
There are times when Jack is resentful that I will do things for Aiden without argument, when I won’t necessarily do those things for him so willingly. It’s not that I am intentionally being disagreeable, or dismissive of Jack, it’s just the difference in how our respective relationships are negotiated. While it sometimes bothers him, there are also times when he uses it to his advantage. He does enjoy the perks of the house being tidy more often than not, and of tasks being completed in a more timely manner. When he points out to me specific things that I do more willingly for Aiden, I do make a note of it and then put more of a conscious effort into doing said thing for Jack without a ton of objections.
Division of time is perhaps the most difficult aspect of co-habitating. While Aiden was looking for work, he and I were able to spend every day together. Obviously Jack and I don’t often enjoy that luxury. Now that Aiden is working again, things should be a little more fair. Divvying up the weekends can be difficult, between LARP and kink events and other social engagements, I could be gone almost constantly, but that would be terribly unfair for Jack and the kids. So we work at balancing. I make sure to give Jack as much notice as possible regarding plans or events I would like to attend, and then we negotiate how to make the most of our time in a way that is workable for everyone. This past weekend, for example, I spent most of Saturday with Jack and the kids, and Aiden went for lunch with some friends. Saturday evening Aiden and I attended a birthday party, and got home quite late. Sunday morning Aiden went to visit his parents, and afterwards to LARP, and I skipped LARP and spent the whole of Sunday at home with Jack and the young ones.
This coming weekend, Aiden will be out on Friday night until the wee hours I imagine, as he has plans in the city with his pals. On Saturday he and I are going to drive out to his parents place, to celebrate his birthday with them and his siblings. On Sunday Aiden is going to watch the kids for a while so that Jack and I can go out for V-Day brunch, and that evening we are all going to hang out and have fondue to celebrate as a group. Monday will also be spent at home, celebrating Aiden’s birthday for a second time, as a family.
Those are just some examples of what our weekends look like around here. Some are more low-key than others, but our schedules are generally crazy, LOL. Fortunately I’m a planner, and both Aiden and Jack generally leave it up to me to keep track of our respective social engagements and to give them each adequate notice regarding what we are doing at any given time. Slaves are really just glorified personal assistants with better perks, after all
When something isn’t really working for Jack, in terms of time or my relationship with Aiden, he’s really good about letting me know so that we can discuss it and make adjustments. As long as the lines of communication remain open, we can generally find a workable solution that makes everyone happy.
Thank you again for the question(s) Tonya. I hope you guys will keep them coming, if you are curious or require clarification on anything. Please don’t be shy
February 10th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
thank you shasta
ive always wondered how the married side of the poly does work.
and youve answered really well for me to understand a bit more.
hugs!!:)
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February 28th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
I still don’t know how you do it. I don’t know how you can juggle two men with two entirely different needs and still find time to be a mom, work, and take care of dogs. You’re incredible. I hope to one day be as able to multi-task as well as you!
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